

But there is one thing, PvP is already evolving, just at a very slow rate. This is my favorite post in this thread, you did a really good job of answering my question, thank you. Most have come to the conclusion that the true test of a player's skill is not beating another player, but rather, being able to work with any and all players to overcome any and all goals/missions through the Co-Op play. Then it is a contest of player skill (which is what PvP is). ie, make everyone equal on Frame/Weapon/Mods. To make PvP viable, DE would have to take the diversity away from the game. Given that the majority of players are here for Co-Op PvE, I highly doubt that PvP will evolve much, or slowly if it does. While the Warframe PvP is not as bad as most PvE games, it still lacks a good bit of balance.

In all the games I've played in my 40 years of gaming (yes, started with Pong), I have never seen a game that does both PvE and PvP correctly at the same time. Truth is the mode is very flawed and not in a very good state at the moment, even the players that enjoy it (like myself) recognize that. I think if PvP was more talked about (positively) DE would put more attention towards it and make much needed changes to make it a far better experience, not just for the current PvP playerbase but for new players or vets trying it out as well. But there's also other reasons new players steer away from it, like tryhards farming them. Considering the PvP playerbase is already so small, that's kind of a problem. When the vets spread hate of the mode, it gives it a bad reputation and steers new players away from it. It was to question why it's so hated by the majority of the community. However, the purpose of this thread wasn't simply to debate whether or not PvP is good in the game. I agree, debate won't change people's minds on the subject.

There is nothing wrong with a game mode having a niche fanbase. That said, I hope that those that enjoy it either don't give up on it, or return to it. Even if you accuse those players of just not being good at it. However, no amount of debate will make players that don't enjoy it change their mind.
